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I agree with Eric. I would participate in the "slower" ride until I am fast enough for the TDF. Thanks Eric.




I agree, plus if someone wants to try the faster group and gets dropped, they can wait for the fast group shows up and still get a good group ride in that day.

Gabhan Chalmers

Not a bad idea Eric, we're going have a board meeting on Monday to discuss this issue, among others.
A fast and faster group may be a good solution.


I have a suggestion - what if we split Thursday into 2 groups?
- Tour de France (>35kph): suffer and bleeding eyeballs
- Tour de California (<35kph): tempo and sharing gardening tips
I've noticed that there's a pretty big gap between Wednesday and Thursday rides now that we are routinely going at 38kph on the flats.

Wilfred Ferwerda

In case you haven't heard about George Vettor's passing:


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